VertCoach Forum

Listen to you fans of the vertical project, I know you dont want to hear this but after hearing the posts that jonsher has been making (I have experienced the same problems) I felt I had to say my experience with the vertical project as well, after all, that is what this site is about. First of all, I also tried the vertical project to the best of my abilities, doing exactly what it says including the 7 day detox, all the weights, the correct UPN numbers, the secret exercise, the 50 inch vertical plan and the window plan stuff as well. I got less than average results (to put it nicely) and certainly no where near "double" my vertical.
When I tried to contact the refund department during the 90 day period which you are allowed to get a refund then I got no reply, but as soon as this period past then they emailed me back saying that I was out of the refund time limit and that they would not allow me a refund.
This post is really for those of you who are thinking of buying the vertical project package, and to warn you that although some of you may get results (definatly nothing close to double your current vertical however, unless of course it is just over 2 and a half inches), some of you wont (here are two cases for example). Only buy it if you have a spare $300 lying around, otherwise, I would advise against it.

Wow that sucks for you guys, only 2 inches and you've done it 2 times, and you've done it once and gained 2 inches, well im on week 2 of tvp and ive already gained 2 inches just from the sample program in week 2, I gained at least 4-5 inches in supers hops, im doing the bonus schedule and im on week 11 the final week and i still ahve 13 weeks left off tvp and many other things it includes o im also on the ab prgram its really good, and to people about getting tvp, its a great program and it wont dissapoint you believe me.

Hi I have also purchased TVP at the beginning of 2006. When I used to ask before purchasing it my every question was answered pronto but when I started to have a problem with my gains no replies to my complaints. Don't get me wrong I am no hater trying to destroy TVP i was just a guy who was so keen on increasing vert that I had only one last final resort TVP. Last resort because it was the most expensive and it involved going everyday to the weightroom and working your ass off. However despite my effort I can't get over the 70cm vert. I'm now confused and disappointed that I was naive and I don't really know what to do. I wouldn't be suprised if after all of this TVP was just a scam. I started noticing after I have recieved an email from TVP where they announced to prepare your credit cards because some new stuff was coming out which is even better than double your vertical. Does anybody know what to do to get over 70cm ?? TVP, Jumpsoles didn't help at all. The only benefit to some skinny guys might be the fact that while doing the program you increase body mass and get bulkier overall.

I belive that a skinny guy could get a more leaner "cut" look while doing certain vert programs but there are guys who want to look like bodybuilders dunno why though . BTW I'm not skinny now and I never were a skinny kid too I was always somewhere between the two body types. Could somebody list the most frequently made mistakes while doing TVP ? Maybe than I'll know whether I did it the right way

i reckon the biggest mistakes are the upns by far. make them to high and your screwed your body will just shut down. the fisrt time i did it i had like upns of 16 and 15 and like that high and i only had bout 24". you really have to make sure you test your upns right its better to keep them lower then over do it. my upns now are between 10 and 5. I think people who have done airalert previously really go crap at this cos there use to doing lots of reps of minimal power. phillip and marco what are your current upns and verts?

Im using a upn of 7 for all of them I could maybe make it alittle higher for some of em but I really didn't wanna risk overdoing it and wanted to keep it fairly simple. Standing vert 24" and runing 30", since I started the running jump went up to about 32".

Phillip, your upn's can't all be the same number, they all have to be different or some can are the same, thats one mistake about the upn's people have them low, but they're not supposed to be the same, so retest them again and make sure they are tested correctly, not too high and  not too low. Marco your s/l calf jumps have to be about half of your s/l calf jumps and your s/l calf jump curls are suppsed to be in the 5 to 7 mark, thats proabably why you havent gained much, thats probbaly why everyone that used tvp and hasn't seen good results, its all about the upn's.

look people,there is nothing low or high in the UPN,if u didn't measur ur correct UPN,then ur loosing ur time and hindring ur reasults,u gotta and u must find ur true and exact UPN before begining the program,don't do the donkey stuff,sometimes VTP don't answer ur questions cause maybe it's a stupide question.
peace.

Yeah they might not answer your questions if they are stupid, and they definately wont answer them if your asking for a refund. TVP is crap.

flightposite what were your upns, thats probably why you lost your gains, your upns were ay to high.

yeh flightposite your upns were probally too high. that happened to me iwas gaining good then towards the end of the program i lost sum of my vertical

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And deolm, when you said tvp is crap did you mean the people of tvp like luke or the program, because the people are crap but not the program.

I meant my whole experience with it, including the program. It just isnt as good as they have you believe and definately not worth the money. I have sent them loads of emails which they dont get back to and I got pretty poor results with the program itself. Thats why I think its crap and really just a big scam with excellent marketing.